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The Venus is in the same catagory as the Fromm, they can be made to shave, not my first or even second choice as a razor, and again at that price point why bother....

Yes Red the older Fromm razors are good shavers....
I have only honed one of the newer Fromm's so far, It was a little harder to hone than some razors, but it did take an edge, and according to the...