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    It is occurring to me that what I have been calling nicks are not what many of you call weepers.

    There are actual cuts which are where the blade actually slices a linear cut into your skin. I hardly ever do this. Then there are dots of blood which appear after you shave yourself. I get these after about every shave. Do you guys call this nicks or weepers? I ask because I use my styptic pencil on these "dots" because they are so fast to patch them up and I'm impatient. But now, I'm wondering with the responses of my Styptic Pencil poll if I could be using my pencil in many conditions where you do not.

    I guess using this terminology, I use my styptic pencil whenever I get a weeper which is pretty much every shave (no matter what shaving system I use).

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    Weepers, I have always though are microscopic cuts in the skin, caused by a super keen razor and the unevenness of your skin. A weeper is painless and will seal up with a cold water splash, whereas a nick is a larger stinging cut, caused by technique or a chip in the edge. These usually will not stop bleeding with cold water only.

    Microscopic chips for me occur on blades where the edge steel is failing. Removing enough of steel until reaching solid steel usually resolves that issue. Weepers are a combination of skin type, sharpening /honing technique and or medium used eg, very fine paste or excessive stropping a well honed, already keen edge.

    Some say they never experience weepers, so I suspect skin type has a lot to do with it.

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    a quick way to tell what is what.

    with a weeper you say oh when did that happen
    with a nick you say ouch i screwed that one up
    with a real cut you don't say anything because you are looking for something to stop the gushing unless its a super clean cut in which case you can grab a towel and then reflect on your life choices for five seconds THEN it starts gushing

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    Besides blade condition, you might be getting these from pressure. Use no more pressure to shave than it takes to wipe away the lather. If your shave doesn't work with this little pressure, then your blade isn't actually "shave-ready."

    That said, some razors on some hones take really harsh edges. I've got one that leaves me weeping blood unless I've done just the right things with it on just the right hones, and another that shaves fantastically but wouldn't draw blood if I held a knife to its throat. Try sending your blade out to an experienced pro honer; they'll know how to hone and tame whatever steel it is.

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    Find that mine are caused by usually two things. 1st Shave Soap/Cream. Lather too dry and not enough slide and 2nd. Lather!! 'Gosh this has been a great shave! Fantastic lather!! Hate to waste it; lets go for one more pass!!! Yep, that when I cut myself!

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    Funny, I will get the odd weeper from a dulling blade, not one that has been freshly honed or touched up. In fact that's usually a surefire sign that a blade needs some attention.

    I also suspect that skin type is a factor as well. If you have tough leathery skin you're likely one of those that says you've never had a weeper lol.
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    i dont know but i think a weeper is a nick that "weeps" alot? so all weepers could be nicks but not all nicks could be weepers, that could depend on the area of your face that has received the nick...*waiting to be corrected*
    i havent had a weeper, unless i actually cut myself deep then it wouldnt be considered a nick, only cut myself in the beginning of my shavette years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan82 View Post
    Funny, I will get the odd weeper from a dulling blade, not one that has been freshly honed or touched up. In fact that's usually a surefire sign that a blade needs some attention.

    I also suspect that skin type is a factor as well. If you have tough leathery skin you're likely one of those that says you've never had a weeper lol.
    is there a club for guys with tough leathery skin? i have one and id love to join

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    I didn't know what a 'weeper' might be until I started SR shaving, If I had to define the term 'weeper', I would say that it is an area that weeps blood very slowly after a shave that is not the result of an obvious cut or nick. It may be just a skin abrasion that results in no more than a spot of blood, as opposed to the more free flowing blood which might result from a nick or cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moehal View Post
    is there a club for guys with tough leathery skin? i have one and id love to join
    I'm sure a group could be started here at SRP, but I won't be joining. I'm cursed with a thick, fast growing beard paired with sensitive skin. Though tough leathery skin would be nice for other reasons too - in a pinch you could use your cheek as a strop
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    I occasionally get weepers that are so slow, that they don't show up for hours.

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