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    Quote Originally Posted by cpcohen1945 View Post
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    1. Stretch the skin in front of the razor. Otherwise, the angle of attack _at the edge_ will change, and the razor will be trying to dig into skin, instead of cutting hair. Not good !

    2. Use a lower angle (flatter blade) than you think is correct. If razor just glides over beard, make the angle a little steeper.
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    Sounds like incredibly good advice. Thanks!
    If I think about it, I am pretty sure that the "stop" effect was due to angle of attack, and the weight of the blade pushing up a bump of skin in front of itself. With a DE razor I am subconsciously slightly changing the angle just by feel as needed. I have to get used to reading (hearing, seeing, feeling) the "feedback" from the straight blade in the same way. As a woodworker I can skim off a thousandth of an inch of wood with a hand held tool on a lathe spinning at 2000rpm... just by "feel". Same kind of thing in many ways, getting the angle correct. Its just repetition and practice doing it right. The only problem with shaving, is having to wait 24 hours before repeating the experiments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpcohen1945 View Post
    Suggestions:...

    2. Use a lower angle (flatter blade) than you think is correct. ...
    This is commonly given advice, and good advice. Laying the blade flat(ter) reduces the length of your whiskers without as much danger of razor burn. However, you should be aware that this sometimes increases resistance to the razor since the blade is slicing thru whiskers at a more exaggerated diagonal angle.

    Reducing the length of your whiskers to skin level is the hardest part of shaving for many. You can shave to stubble with a safety razor, skipping the hard part, and finish with the straight razor. On subsequent shaves, slowly phase out of the safety razor, leaving more and more for the straight.

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    OK... better

    A new tool.
    A superb razor kindly sent to me by Mikael, a Geneva Cutlery Co straight which he describes as a "shaver". Oh yes thankyouverymuch! It is, and it does. I still limited it to one cheek, but pulling the skin as recommended. It worked nicely.







    Rest of the shave was with a brand new Feather AS DE (with Feather blade) which also arrived today.

    Life is good.

    Rod

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    Hi Neep, welcome to the forum. I'm new to straight razor shaving myself, and from the dozen or so shaves I have had, I can tell that it will be a long, yet very satisfying learning curve! On my first shave I did my whole face, and while it went surprisingly well, I think I that was a bit of a one off - my shaves since then have been quite inconsistent in quality, smoothness, etc. I then adopted the approach you're taking, i.e. shaving little bits with the straight razor at a time and finishing off with a safety and found that helped alot.
    I see you have some Scottish Fine Soaps products - I came across them earlier and wondered what they were like. How do you find them? I really like the look of the dish the soap comes in, very classy! Maybe as a Scot I'm just a bit biased though

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrieduncan View Post
    I see you have some Scottish Fine Soaps products - I came across them earlier and wondered what they were like. How do you find them? I really like the look of the dish the soap comes in, very classy! Maybe as a Scot I'm just a bit biased though
    The soap doesn't just come in a classy ceramic bowl. You should see the silk lined box it comes in! The sort of thing that you would set before a king for his morning shave.

    It isn't expensive either!

    Oh yes.... the soap is exceedingly good too.
    I like it. A lot.

    Rod

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    Yeah, I saw the presentation box the brush comes in - looks very suave! I'll add the soap to my ever-growing wish list, cheers!

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    Well.... for the sake of continuity, I'll follow up here.

    I am still only shaving my cheeks with the straight, following up with a DE and Feather blade to complete the shave.
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    I have now reached the stage where the DE won't shave off any more hair from the places where I have used the straight.
    So I count that as a resounding success.

    Shhh !! Not a nick so far.

    Rod

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    Great progress report! Keep it up.
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    Thanks for the update.

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    Neep - No, you're not being too cautious. That exact phenomena kept me from using a nice, but flexible full hollow. I was holding the 30 deg. like it was written in stone. Its not. When the brush gets thick, drop that angle pronto. (I'm assuming the edge is worthy) Its intimidating right now, but a few months from now, you'll do it with ease.

    At the time, the Mrs. bought me a 1/4 grind (heavier grind), and it was a game changer - just mowed through the heavy timber like it was nothing. Instead of being quite tense, trying to get everything right, it became quite easy. I could try stretches and strokes I wouldn't have dreamed of w/ the flexible hollow. Next thing you know, I could do it w/ the hollow also.

    Whether its the edge - maybe post how/who did the edge, the beard prep, the stretch, you'll have it licked soon.

    You're gonna do fine.

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