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    we have used vinegar on our butcher's knives, table and any other surface needing cleaning when processing wild game, works same as bleach but food safe as well. there is also some mention online of using vineagar on fungal infections, but i would read more before i try that one.

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    I agree with Ziggy that it might very well be your brush that's the culprit.Their was an article a while back on someone taking some cheap razors and seeing what the effects of using Barbicide and an enclave would be on them. Not good at all,severe damage. Maybe a short soak in the Barbicide but definitely not long I would say.Also there is mention of using woods that are in stages of decay(spalted woods) for scales in another article.If either your brush handle or blade scales are made of wood,you might look into that as fungi can apparently lay dormant until wet and then ,it can cause things like rash,infections and the like.Not trying to alarm you,just passing on some info is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qatsats View Post
    I've not read advice about buying a separate set of shaving towels before this. I've not had any problems with rashes or infections. I use the same towel for a week. It is washed in warm water without bleach. Can anyone direct me to more information on this topic?
    Do a web search for "barber beautician rules towels"
    and you will find numerous state and local rules and
    regulations mandating clean linen for each customer.
    Harder to find are commercial laundry regulations but
    commercial towel and linen services do a good job.

    There will not be a lot of shaving specific information on this.
    It is my personal opinion based on my Dads guidance years ago
    when I first started shaving. My Dad made the point that shaving
    required sanitary practices like surgery. He did encounter
    problems in the Pacific Islands during WW2 where sanitation
    took a second place to self protection.

    Towels like socks should be laundered often.

    Shaving removes a little to a lot of the surface of the skin and
    that surface is for many of us the first line of defense for infections
    of a hundred plus types.

    Old barber books mandate a clean fresh towel for each customer.
    Modern barber rules mandate a fresh towel (paper or linen) for
    each customer and the barber cannot wipe his/her hand on the
    towel used on customers skin (or hair)

    Spa, hotels and pools will provide fresh towels daily.
    Commercial laundry is a lot more aggressive than home laundry.

    As for bleach, (remember that the OP felt he was coping with
    a fungus) it is common sense to use the most common disinfectant
    available. And I would note that the energy efficient cold
    water detergents clean well but depend on the dryer for
    the sanitation that heat can add. The natural UV from the
    sun is also excluded (no one has an outdoor cloth line).

    IMO too many folk toss damp towels in a lump in a hamper
    with dirty socks and let them "ferment" for a week before getting
    laundered. They wear out quickly and are less likely to
    be "sanitary" even after the laundry.

    As for using a towel for a week -- sure. If you are relentless
    about hanging it out to dry in a well ventilated place. Still,
    a fresh towel for each shave is a better idea.

    Summary: Sanitation is a good idea.

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    "There will not be a lot of shaving specific information on this. It is my personal opinion based on my Dads guidance years ago when I first started shaving. My Dad made the point that shaving required sanitary practices like surgery. He did encounter problems in the Pacific Islands during WW2 where sanitation took a second place to self protection."

    Thanks, I'll do that search. While I don't have to worry about cross contamination, it would be safer and -- it might just add to the enjoyment.

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    My brush is new so I wouldn't worry about it

    The towel must be the culprit here! I use the same towel to wipe off my blade and I rarely wash it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gull View Post
    My brush is new so I wouldn't worry about it

    The towel must be the culprit here! I use the same towel to wipe off my blade and I rarely wash it.
    I don't know about that either. I use a shave towel and to tell you the truth I use the same one for a couple weeks before I wash it. I make sure its rinsed real good and make sure it dries completely within a couple of hours and I've never had issues. If your towel stays wet a long time that could be another thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamwilson View Post
    we have used vinegar on our butcher's knives, table and any other surface needing cleaning when processing wild game, works same as bleach but food safe as well. there is also some mention online of using vineagar on fungal infections, but i would read more before i try that one.
    Vinegar is an interesting agent. I was once told that
    it does not kill bugs but rather causes bacteria to release
    from the surface of food so they can be washed off. One
    knowledgeable person remarked that most poultry problems
    could be eliminated by a vinegar wash so salmonella from
    a nicked gut would wash off and minimize the contamination
    that stays behind.

    As far as I know in the list of household products only bleach will kill bugs.
    Salt, vinegar, sugar, peroxide, soap and hot water punish bugs, rinse them
    away and and keep them at bay. This is why most canning and pickling
    processes involve a HOT step in a boiling water/ live steam or
    in a hot pressure cooker.

    A professional butcher might add information. There may be different
    rules where animals are killed, gutted and skinned that contrast to where
    primals are cut.

    I see no problem with vinegar as part of a well considered sanitation process. I use it or lemon on cutting boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niftyshaving View Post
    I see no problem with vinegar as part of a well considered sanitation process.
    I agree--as long as that sanitization process does not extend to razors. Do not expose your razor to vinegar unless you don't like how shiny your razor is. Vinegar contains dilute acetic acid and will quickly tarnish your blade.

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    Lynn,Sixgunn,Stubear,were are you ? Help on this before something awful happens to this gentlemans fine blade. Just sayin

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    I'd really like living in the brush.

    I really think the gentleman should make sure it's clean, even if it is new.

    It's an environment that stays moist for at least a few hours every day. Mmm... comfy!
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