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    Sorry what? I wasn`t listening.... Feebo's Avatar
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    Hey guys, I`m obviously going to need a hone at some point but I want to make sure I buy something suitable so I thought I`d ask you lot. Someone recommended a Barbers hone but I can only find one on Ebay and it`s for auction, I`d rather do the "Buy it now" thing. Here are a few I wanted to run by you.....
    TRI HONE 3 STONE ROTATING SHARPENING STONE + HONING OIL on eBay (end time 23-Jul-10 17:34:16 BST)

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Chinese-Wa...item1e5951dfaa

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/waterstone-800...item53dd03fa8d

    Are any of those suitable?
    A double sided one or something would be good I suppose, so I have two different grade grits.
    I tell you what though, I`ve just had a thought. I`ve got an Arkansas stone here and a few large oil stones too, would they not be suitable?

    Cheers

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    The tri-hone is good for knives but not razors. The third one seems to no longer be available. The second one is used by many members here and the rubbing stone allows for slurry production to speed up cutting. This is helpful given that the Chinese hone tends to be slow. Like a barber hone, it is only useful for maintenance of an already sharp razor. Used this way, it is perfectly fine. However, unlike most barber hones which require just a few strokes, the Chinese hone will require perhaps 25 to 50 strokes for a simple touch up. This is no big deal for the occasional razor though.

    Welcome to the world of honing!

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    Here are my thoughts...

    • the tri stone isn't what you are looking for IMHO. It's pretty small, and the grits are likely to be too coarse by a large margin.
    • the chinese hone can be a good finisher, or used for a refresh from time to time, but it will not be suitable for a complete re-honing.
    • some arkansas stones are used for honing, but I can't say if yours are suitable
    • The first hone I can't see, so I can't speak to it with any accuracy.


    A few things to keep in mind:
    Your hone choice depends on your goals.
    Do you want to refresh a razor that someone else has already honed or do you want to be able to completely hone a razor from a dull edge to shave ready.

    If you want to be able to refresh an edge, I'd look for a barber hone. They are relatively cheap and able to keep a razor going forever.

    If you want to be able to do a complete honing, I'd recommend you look at a Norton 4k/8k combo, or a similar set of Naniwa stones. The reason for this is that these are proven hones. You will have lots of info available on how to prep, and execute a good hone job. If you gamble on another set, you are... well... gambling.

    And as always, it would be a good idea to check the wiki articles on honing, and the forum posts to get a feel of what people are using. There are lots of threads that discuss the advantages of each hone, and what a beginner could use as a starter kit. You should spend a few hours there before you bring money up to the bar.

    cheers

    Dave

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    Well... My razor is shaving but is a little catchy here and there, something that could well be down to technique from what I`ve learned so far. I`m just after a hone that I can maintain my already "sharp" razor with. Unfortunatly I`ve yet to find a barbers hone for sale anywhere... Is there a way I can acertain if my Arkansas stone is suitable? It does seem to be very very fine.......

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    Only way that I know of is to test them out... but you will be risking the need to send them out to be fixed.

    As for finding barber hones...scroll down to the bottom of the following link... you'll find a couple of barber hones for sale here by a known pro

    Gem Star Customs - Razors For Sale

    You can find them on theBay, but the same rules of buyer beware that always apply to online auctions from unknown sellers should be kept in mind. *word to the wise... avoid anything that says zeepk, or pakistan in the listing*
    Last edited by Del1r1um; 06-30-2010 at 09:04 PM.

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    The guys have already answered your questions, so I won't repeat.
    I wanted to add that I think your problem may have been your search criteria.
    If you try razor hone, there are quite a few in amongst what comes up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feebo View Post
    Well... My razor is shaving but is a little catchy here and there, something that could well be down to technique from what I`ve learned so far. I`m just after a hone that I can maintain my already "sharp" razor with. Unfortunatly I`ve yet to find a barbers hone for sale anywhere... Is there a way I can acertain if my Arkansas stone is suitable? It does seem to be very very fine.......
    Arkansas stones can be difficult because for the most
    part they all have the same grain size which is sort of coarse
    by razor standards. The very dense translucent and black
    stones defy grain size rules because of their density and
    with oil and a very light hand can generate a fine edge on
    many razors.

    If you are still hunting give a hard look at the Norton 4000/8000
    combination stone. After lapping the top two millimeters off
    both sides and lapping it flat this is a work horse hone. When
    used with a pyramid method and light touch will keep most folk
    shaving and smiling.

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    Odd I thought I had put "razor hone" into Ebay? huh... Anyway, thanks guys, that helps a lot. One more question, it seems you need to lap the hone after each use. I`m going to need a lapping stone AND a hone at the same time am I?

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    if you are getting ANY OTHER then a barber hone you will probably ned some way of lapping it
    You mention that you dont like auction so good so if in UK/europe
    there are sometimes listed some here
    www.strop-shop.co.uk for Hone Stones & Abrasives for Sale

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    I believe GSSIXGUN was selling barber's hones. Drop him a PM and see if he has any for sale. You may also try PM'ing Holli4priating as he may have one or two to sell. This way you will be sure to get a hone for razors. So they don't think you are asking out of the blue you can tell them I sent you over if you wish.
    “If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got.” (A. Einstein)

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