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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    I am looking to get into the game but I am wondering about creams and such. I know to be totally authentic I need to go the all the way with the dish, brush, puck etc. But not to meaning commit sacralige I was wondering if it would be possible/advisable to start out using a CREAM shaving cream like this....
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    Tell me what you guys think please.
    Not sacralige .
    We all have different beards, water, habits, wives, girlfriends, brushes, blades, skills and expectations.

    What ever works, works.

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    I got my eye on a Vintage Henckle I'm just trying to figure out the best route...... I might consider a brush and stroup with a vintage blade. I'm still trying to figure this all out.

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    lol I have a story for you:

    I started out with a $20 blade, a $20 strop and the $10 set of brush soap and bowl. This worked but wasn't great. Now my go to strop was $75, my brush cost $35, and I have lots of razors. The strop doesn't have to be that expensive, I still have and use the $20 one and I have another for $50.

    My point is you can start cheap, but eventually you will upgrade. If you can, buy decent stuff now and it'll save you some in the long run.

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    There is not much of a problem with the financial outlay but the principle is what is the issue. I just am a little bit leary about spending say $250 and deciding that I can't or won't do this.

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    If I'm not mistaken, you can get a small puck of Col. Conk soap for less than $5. Just look around. I can't comment on the Nutragena product, but Col. Conk works pretty well. There's a pharmacy near me that sells Proraso for less than $10, so if you look around you should be able to find quality products on the cheap.

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    I know the actual soap and cream is cheap it's the brush, cup, stand, etc that adds up...... I think I may just go with the set up I linked to earlier. Unless I can get the Henckles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    I got my eye on a Vintage Henckle I'm just trying to figure out the best route...... I might consider a brush and stroup with a vintage blade. I'm still trying to figure this all out.
    While you are thinking get a nice soap and a brush.

    IMO, in the universe that is shaving "Wet shaving" is what it all revolves around. Said differently: face preparation is key. No matter what you select for a blade, without a good lather and face prep no blade will shave up to its potential.

    Building a good lather is not hard. Having said that it does take hints and practice. Not too long ago I took a new eight dollar boar brush and a dollar fifty puck of Williams and spent the afternoon making a lather in 50+ different ways.
    Not shaving just making and breaking lather, too much water, too little, light brush strokes, harder strokes, pumping, swirling.... This was after watching mantic59 on youtube.com make lathers. In some he was clearly promoting a product family. After discounting the products I learned a lot. One hint was that it is "easy to add water" was worth taking home.

    YouTube - How To Build And Apply Traditional Shaving Lather


    I had been flopping about for +40 years on my own and thought I had a clue. .... Well I learned more than a bit from the folks here and other places on the web. I have settled on a combination face plus tin cup lathering strategy. I get lather on my whiskers sooner for soak time (important) and in the cup I can add water drip by drip to get it right. Face, cup, face, cup... I end up with a mug full of lather for follow up passes as a bonus.

    Just remember that you want you whiskers to soak up water and lather for
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    BTW: working half way through a puck of Williams just tinkering will break in a cheep boar brush as a bonus.

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    You don't NEED a stand plus they are cheap- and you don't NEED a bowl- a mug will work fine, and you can lather on your face if you want

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    I'll give my newbie (Day 28!) two cents for what they're worth. I started with a tube of Proraso, a puck of Conk Bay Rum, and a Tweezerman brush, purchased through Amazon, a Filly strop from RupRazor, and Nivea Extreme from Safeway. I use a small bowl from my kitchen, and dry the razor on a shelf. Razor was shave-ready from the classifieds.

    Now, I've loved the Bay Rum smell since I was a kid, so I was rooting for it. I tried both the Conk and Proraso by themselves, and very much preferred the Proraso. I have not bothered to get any glycerin or other additives yet, so I'm not whipping up uberlather. I really liked the lather from the Proraso, but found the Conk dried up too easily on my face. So, score one for the cream.

    I then got a sample kit from the local Art of Shaving store (freebie!). This was a revelation in lather production. An almond-sized dollop of cream VERY quickly gave plenty of whipped-cream consistency lather for a shave, and the shave was more comfortable. Best of all, since it was unscented, I could mix in some of the Bay Rum soap for a nice scent. Score another for the cream, but give the soap some credit.

    I then got samples of Lavender and Bay Rum soap from SRD. (I now own more scented products than my wife, who thinks I'm nuts.) They had a MUCH more intense smell, and made a much better lather than the Conk, but I still found them a bit too drying. The introduction of glycerin might help, but mixing with a little AOS cream made for a really luxurious shave. Cream wins again, but a really top-notch soap is a fantastic addition.

    I have some Castle and Forbes Lime on the way, so we'll see how that compares to what I've done so far. It gets great reviews for lather production. I'm planning to get some of Mama Bears soap at some point as well, but I'm definitely leaning toward favoring creams.

    I should also point out that in my limited experience, the smell is really more for your benefit during the shave than anything else. I don't find it to have any lasting effect, which I think is good.

    Good luck!

    Fred

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    Hi there!

    I'm a complete and total newb, and just did my first straight shave the other night.

    But I have to tell you, I've used all kinds of stuff for shaving in the past. I get pretty bad razor bumps, and I found that most of the creams I had tried either didn't help, or actually make it worse because they're so full of chemical crap that my skin doesn't like. I wound up just using plain soap in the end, because I didn't feel like spending the money on stuff I didn't get good results from.

    Tried shaving soap and a brush for the first time last and night and HOLY CRAP, it is so much better. Even if I don't wind up sticking to straight shaving (though I fully intend to!) I will stick to using shaving soap and a brush. It feels great, it leaves your skin feeling great, and it just works better. It really does.

    It doesn't have to cost you an arm and a leg. I picked up a cheap synthetic brush, which works just fine for now, for $11.50 NZ, which works out to about $8 US. And I even saw a couple for a little bit cheaper.

    I have Mama Bear's Chocolate Mousse soap (a lovely gift from the lovely Lilith!), and it works up a lather in no time flat, even with my cheap brush. I just took a look on the site, and you can pick up something from there for as little as $7.50 US, and it will last for absolutely ages.

    And I'm sure you could find other soap brands that run cheaper as well. But Mame Bear gets all kinds of praise around here, and now I know why.

    So that's, what, $15-$16 on a brush and soap? It's worth it.

    You don't need to buy a scuttle, or a stand. Just use a small bowl, and let the brush dry either in the dry cup, or standing on its handle, if the base is flat.
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