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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar1999 View Post
    I would do it, but I don't have the authority to edit
    IIRC anyone can edit any Wiki contribution. Maybe the author will get around to it if no one else does.
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    Well, if he made a mistake, he went all out including adding a picture to illustrate it...



    Could be that he said what he meant to say

    Here's the arrow for the TNT... I doubt it was a mistake

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    Y'all might find this old thread interesting:

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...humb-test.html

    Might also shed some light on why the wiki is wrong.
    Last edited by honedright; 11-11-2009 at 02:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honedright View Post
    Y'all might find this old thread interesting:

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...humb-test.html

    Might also shed some light on why the wiki is wrong.
    So that barber's manual said it was wrong. Ok. It's interesting that prior to that post, there was pretty much a consensus that the way the wiki described was correct. Either way, it's a moot point for me because the TPT doesn't get used after 4k anyway for me... Could be that they're both "right"

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    Actually, honedright is about the only person to get it right in that other thread. I think the confusion can be readily seen where people seem to be scared to death they are going to cut themselves running their thumb "along" the edge. The reality is that cutting your thumb IS the test. It's just very light, and the sensation is very subtle.

    The more I research this outside of the forum the more I hear people say that the TPT is a definitive test to see if a blade is shave ready without screwing up the edge. I'm not about to say it is THE definitive test, but it is certainly a definitive test across the net.

    (This has been a great thread.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by honedright View Post
    Y'all might find this old thread interesting:

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...humb-test.html

    Might also shed some light on why the wiki is wrong.
    I didn't read the whole thread but only went to your post here on the first page. That is the correct way. It is the way I was taught and it works for me. AFAIC that is the way to do it. The going across method makes no sense to me at all. OTOH, I may be wrong ... I was wrong once before.
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    The wiki article indeed means across, not along.

    It was under debate over here, long time ago. There were 2 camps. Sometimes, both camps are right, but in this particular case, I have always felt the "across" camp was wrong. (They were a minority, but some senior members adhered to it).

    I don't think if you go very gingerly across, that you will do much damage to the edge, but still you wont be able the estimate the sharpness as precisely as you should for razor use. Moving along, things like micro-shipping can easily be felt.

    Across is to probe for the kind of sharpness you expect to find on a well honed kitchen knife. If it grabs it will still perform very well processing vegetables. But it won't necessarily shave.

    Along is to discern differences in shaving sharpness. Barbers used it to check if a razor was sufficiently stropped. With some practice it is possible to feel the level of sharpness starting at the level a blade starts to shave soft arm hairs till all the way up to the point where it will shave hard beard hairs without pulling.

    I have always felt the wiki article should be adjusted, but without any real consensus, who am I to do so?

    Bart.

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    So, is it the consensus that because the barber's manual described it that way that it's "the gospel"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richmondesi View Post
    So, is it the consensus that because the barber's manual described it that way that it's "the gospel"?
    Try learning and practicing both techniques and decide which you feel is the most effective for you. I'm in the 'along' the blade camp.
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    I've just copied and pasted Scott's (honedright) post here on the TPT in the Wiki as Alternative TPT Method. If this is controversial or whatever anyone can edit anything. I think it is an excellent explanation and will only help anyone interested in learning the TPT have explanations of both techniques at their disposal.
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