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    I play guitar, my left hand quickly picked up on shaving. I shave right-handed, lather up again and then shave left-handed. It's my two pass method.
    Practicing with a butter knife is good advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal View Post
    For me it was less an issue of dexterity/strength. I'm a mechanic by trade, sometimes you've got to flip hands simply because your left arm will slip into that tiny blindspot and turn the bolt better.

    Where my real issue was looking back, was spatial relation because I'm right eye dominant as well. So when I turn right, and I'm looking at my left cheek with my left eye, trying to carefully guide the razor with my left hand and trying to maintain blade angle sometimes it just got trippy. Guiding it to my cheek I would come in too fast, or just lose any and all concept of how close the blade was to touch down. Then I'd spend a few seconds staring at it and trying to figure out who was what when and where.

    And then there's wrote training that bit me. When I want a bolt to come off, that's a counter clockwise turn. My hands 'know' this motion regardless of their orientation. My subconscious made connections while shaving with my right hand - lift spine, turn counter clockwise, lower spine, turn clockwise. Flip to my left hand and my brain says 'lift spine' but fingers lower spine instead (still turning clockwise), I'm staring at my fingers trying to figure out why they just did that while simultaneously pondering if I should keep shaving or wipe off the pink lather and find the styptic pencil...

    Keep shaving, forgive lefty his trespasses and slowly rebuild trust while keeping a close eye on that SOB.
    I like this idea of left and right eye dominance.

    To TheSatch which are you?

    I am left eye dominate but dominate right handed.

    I think that this in most cases does not create a problem unless you are under stress. I shoot a lot of archery and a person can practice with out an issue but if they get in a situation of stress such as a tournement or hunting then it can become a big problem because your dominate eye wants to take over. Closing your dominate eye works to an extent but then you loose many other benifits of 2 eyed vision.

    I have never found shaving to be stressful in that I am going to cut my throat but many do.....

    In response to turning a nut "upside down with my less dominate hand around a corner. I have found if I close my eyes and visualize it I have good results.

    I can't see it anyway so what are the use of my eyes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 32t View Post
    I like this idea of left and right eye dominance.

    To TheSatch which are you?

    I am left eye dominate but dominate right handed.

    I think that this in most cases does not create a problem unless you are under stress. I shoot a lot of archery and a person can practice with out an issue but if they get in a situation of stress such as a tournement or hunting then it can become a big problem because your dominate eye wants to take over. Closing your dominate eye works to an extent but then you loose many other benifits of 2 eyed vision.

    I have never found shaving to be stressful in that I am going to cut my throat but many do.....

    In response to turning a nut "upside down with my less dominate hand around a corner. I have found if I close my eyes and visualize it I have good results.

    I can't see it anyway so what are the use of my eyes!

    I am right handed but left eye dominant as well.

    I shoot right handed, both firearms and archery because I didn't know about eye dominance when I learned. I am now experimenting with shooting firearms left handed, but as you know, that's an entirely different animal with a bow, and I can't dump money on a new one right now.

    I have found in shooting (both disciplines) that I can force my brain to recognize the sight picture from my right eye, but it takes practice, and if I don't shoot for a while, it's more difficult when I go back.

    As far as turning my head and trying to see what I'm doing while shaving, I have noticed I am much better if I can focus with both eyes on what I am doing. By making sure I use slow, controlled movements, I am comfortable trusting my hands to use the blade to feel exactly where I am on my face. I know where I want to start and stop the blade, so I make sure what I can see is in focus, and trust my hands for the small amount of time the blade is hidden under my jaw line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSatch View Post
    I am right handed but left eye dominant as well.

    I shoot right handed, both firearms and archery because I didn't know about eye dominance when I learned. I am now experimenting with shooting firearms left handed, but as you know, that's an entirely different animal with a bow, and I can't dump money on a new one right now.

    I have found in shooting (both disciplines) that I can force my brain to recognize the sight picture from my right eye, but it takes practice, and if I don't shoot for a while, it's more difficult when I go back.

    As far as turning my head and trying to see what I'm doing while shaving, I have noticed I am much better if I can focus with both eyes on what I am doing. By making sure I use slow, controlled movements, I am comfortable trusting my hands to use the blade to feel exactly where I am on my face. I know where I want to start and stop the blade, so I make sure what I can see is in focus, and trust my hands for the small amount of time the blade is hidden under my jaw line.
    I didn't know about my left eye dominance until my children started shooting. 1 right and 2 left. One righty and 2 lefties dominate hands.
    Long story but only righties on my wife's and my side. Old ways....

    Going back to your original post about dominant hands and shaving my thoughts are about practicing with no fear about the butter knife doing any damage to your face or strop.

    And then going to the "real thing" and then having that fear of cutting either one.

    My random thoughts on a Wednesday night.

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    Mostly I turn this way or that to stretch skin and see where the hair is. Shaping sideburns etc. Most of the southpaw shave was fine, but turning my head right so I could get a better view of the hair coming down from the sideburns along the back of the jawline is what used to get me. Also helps avoiding ear nibbles, though as I've gotten a better concept of blind spatial recognition with my left hand I find this a little less necessary and don't turn quite as far as I once did.

    But in the beginning when it was turn far right, close right eye since all I saw was nose bridge anyway (in retrospect this may have been detrimental), then take a stab at it (almost literally) it was more problematic.

    I learned about eye dominance when I learned to shoot left handed. Interestingly enough, I'm more accurate shooting lefty. Probably because it takes quite a lot of concentration to force the brain pan to focus on the sight picture out of the left eye. Especially with both eyes open.

    I'm not sure the mind tricks were triggered by fear. My first shave the worst I got was razor burn, so after that I was pretty plucky about it. I think it was just the brain pan tripping over visual input from the 'wrong eye' while guiding the 'wrong hand' so close to my face. Stimulus overload, too much 'new stuff' going on at once?

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    I think the theory is a good one. The trick is how it is used. I am noob at straight razor but have DE shaved for 30 plus years, I also practice martial arts and many different hobbies that you use both hands. Just MHO

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    Casts are the same reason why I can do almost everything with my left hand too. Four separate times have I had a cast from the elbow down and once from the shoulder down. I was kinda accident prone when I was younger. Good thing I grew out of that stage before I found an addiction to straight razors.
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