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    Default My new beauties (Herder & Heljestrand), want info

    I got these two razor by mail today. They were away to get honed after I sanded and polished them. I picked them up on an ebay like site for about 6 or 7 euro's each. They are back now and the Herder shaves awesome!

    C.V. Heljestrand No. 23 K&B Extra
    1/4 Hollow, 5/8, 1 shoulder stabiliser, French point, white celluloid scales.

    Friedrich Herder Abrahams Sohn No. 20
    Full hollow, 6/8, shoulderless, muted square point, black bakelite scales.

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    Hopefully some of you know what the K&B Extra means and when the razors were made. Enjoy the razor porn.
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    Sweet Helje ! Should be a top notch shaver, Both are very nice razors !
    here is a link on site, hope it helps
    http://straightrazorpalace.com/srpwi...2No_23%22_9/16
    http://straightrazorpalace.com/srpwi...d_%2223%22_5/8
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    IME you can't beat a Heljestrand. I've only got one Herder and it is first rate. Ya done good.
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    Mooie score!
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    Two of the best shavers, in my experience. They also both hold an edge very well-good tempering on the steel, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blugill View Post
    Sweet Helje ! Should be a top notch shaver, Both are very nice razors !
    here is a link on site, hope it helps
    Heljestrand, C. V. "No 23" 9/16 - Straight Razor Place Wiki
    Heljestrand "23" 5/8 - Straight Razor Place Wiki
    Hi blugill, looking at the tail and the width of the shoulder the helje resembles the MK-23. The strange part is the location of the "No 23"(on the tail) and the K&B Extra logo on the back of the tang. But mine has jimps on the bottom of the tang and the size of the No 23, wierd weird.

    It appears that K&B was a pharmacy in the US between 1905 and 1997(K&B - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), so a razor with a shop logo isn't a stretch. However, how did a Swedish razor for the US market end up in The Netherlands........
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    Very nice! Congrats and enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrickBag View Post
    It appears that K&B was a pharmacy in the US between 1905 and 1997(K&B - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), so a razor with a shop logo isn't a stretch. However, how did a Swedish razor for the US market end up in The Netherlands........
    Brick, I think the wikipedia.org reference may be the wrong K&B for this razor.

    Goins' Encyclopedia of Cutlery Markings gives K & B as a trademark of Kruse & Bahlmann, who had the K&B Hardware Co., of Cincinnati, Ohio (1894-1962).

    HTH,

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbaglio100 View Post
    Brick, I think the wikipedia.org reference may be the wrong K&B for this razor.

    Goins' Encyclopedia of Cutlery Markings gives K & B as a trademark of Kruse & Bahlmann, who had the K&B Hardware Co., of Cincinnati, Ohio (1894-1962).

    HTH,
    ALSO: The OP's tang shows K&B Extra... Goins cites a KB Extra ("K B" without ampersand) as "K B Extra, a Trademark used by Krusius Brothers, New York 1889-1927. However, Goins doesn't show a logo for this, so I don't know whether the "Extra" on the OP's tang confirms the Krusius lineage, or the absence of the "&" negates it...

    But in either case, I'm still tending away from the New Orleans drug store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrickBag View Post
    Hi blugill, looking at the tail and the width of the shoulder the helje resembles the MK-23. The strange part is the location of the "No 23"(on the tail) and the K&B Extra logo on the back of the tang. But mine has jimps on the bottom of the tang and the size of the No 23, wierd weird.

    It appears that K&B was a pharmacy in the US between 1905 and 1997(K&B - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), so a razor with a shop logo isn't a stretch. However, how did a Swedish razor for the US market end up in The Netherlands........
    Man I wouldn't have a clue how, you got a fine Helje and now its got me interested in finding out more about that particular one, I myself have never seen one quite like yours ! Get her ready and put her on display in SOTD !

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