Using high grit Japanese hones to sharpen razor

**hi_bud_gl** · 11-01-2009, 12:38 AM

At first i should say i haven't descovered this method. it has been done 1000 years ago. i hear about this from Jim while we were chatting. i did try this method and it does work great.
what i have used
Natural Japanese hone appr 20 k level
small course yellow stone
next yellow small a little finer
then i used dmt to make natural stones slurry
Last small stone is an Escher
Rasor is Droescher hand forged
Result were excellent.
i made mistake not to record audio. set up was wrong.
hope this will help someone.
YouTube - vi1

**Kingfish** · 11-01-2009, 02:35 AM

Hi Sham,
Why does the escher go after natural slurry? Good video and nice hunk of Japan!
M

**holli4pirating** · 11-01-2009, 02:44 AM

I could be mistaken, but it looks and sounds like Sham is using slurries from various stones on top of a very fine Japanese hone. So it's like moving through a progression of pastes, but on stones instead. The hones used to create the slurries are progressivly finer, so the escher must have been used after something that was a bit more coarse than the escher.

Or maybe we should wait to hear from Sham...

**hi_bud_gl** · 11-01-2009, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

I could be mistaken, but it looks and sounds like Sham is using slurries from various stones on top of a very fine Japanese hone. So it's like moving through a progression of pastes, but on stones instead. The hones used to create the slurries are progressivly finer, so the escher must have been used after something that was a bit more coarse than the escher.

Or maybe we should wait to hear from Sham...

yes that is the exact process . An Escher is finer then natural stone in the picture.

**JMS** · 11-01-2009, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

yes that is the exact process . An Escher is finer then natural stone in the picture.

So, the Japanese natural is used as a lapping plate and you are using the stones to make your own lapping compounds. Interesting

**Kingfish** · 11-01-2009, 03:28 AM

Thank You Sham. I am trying to learn more about natural stones. I have two eschers, one is light grey and other is darker and both are lower grit ones that is what made me confused.

**hi_bud_gl** · 11-01-2009, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Kingfish

lower grit ones that is what made me confused.

I think You mean higher grit ones?

**Kingfish** · 11-01-2009, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

I think You mean higher grit ones?

No I meant what I said. My eschers are both too coarse for me to shave off with much comfort where shaving off the Nakayama is fantastic.Then again I don't know how to use naturals too well so please don't let me take you off your lesson. Thanks.
Mike

**hi_bud_gl** · 11-01-2009, 05:20 PM

Don't feel bad i assure you 95 % Escher owner 's uses it wrong. An Escher is not sharpening stone.
if you need help send pm.

**joke1176** · 11-01-2009, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

Don't feel bad i assure you 95 % Escher owner 's uses it wrong. An Escher is not sharpening stone.
if you need help send pm.

You got me here Sham: I think ALL stones sharpen to some degree, just some do it much much slower, e.g. the Escher in question.

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